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Wagner, Frederick August (Corporal)

Killed in Flying Accident 1943-August-07

Birth Date: unkown date (age 44)

Born: Grafton, North Dakota

Son of August Frederick and Maude Wagner, of Ohaton, Alberta.

Husband of Ida Myrtle Wagner, of Camrose.

Home: Camrose, Alberta

Enlistment: Edmonton, Alberta

Enlistment Date: 1941-08-14

Service
RCAF
Unit
4 WS- Wireless School
Base
Guelph, Ontario, Canada
Rank
Corporal
Marshal
Air Chief MarshalA/C/M
Air MarshalA/M
Air Vice MarshalA/V/M
Air CommodoreA/C
Group CaptainG/C
Wing CommanderW/C
Squadron LeaderS/L
Flight LieutenantF/L
Flying OfficerF/O
Pilot OfficerP/O
Warrant Officer 1st ClassWO1
Warrant Officer 2nd ClassWO2
Flight SergeantFS
SergeantSGT
CorporalCPL
Senior AircraftmanSAC
Leading AircraftmanLAC
Aircraftman 1st ClassAC1
Aircraftman 2nd ClassAC2
Position
Service Numbers
R/121771
Yale aircraft 3420 either stalled or went into a spin and crashed four miles south-west of Burford, Ontario. Flying Officer W. Bieber was also killed.

Canada Primary Source School Daily Diary Entry " 1943-08-07

Canada Source Canadian Virtual War Memorial

Commonwealth War Graves Commission Commonwealth War Graves Commission

Find-A-Grave.com Finadagrave.com

Canada Primary Source Library and Archives Canada Service Files (may not exist)

Home
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Burial
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Lot 55 Block C

Yale 3420

North American Yale

Source: CWHM

The North American NA-64 (NA-64 P-2 or NAA-64 P-2 in French service, Yale in Canadian service) is a low-wing single piston engine monoplane advanced trainer aircraft that was built for the French Air Force and French Navy, served with the Royal Canadian Air Force, and with the Luftwaffe as a captured aircraft during World War II.

Ordered as a follow-on to the NA-57 as a two-seat advanced trainer, the NA-64 P-2/NAA-64 P-2 represented a major structural improvement, with a longer all-metal fuselage replacing the fabric covered fuselage of the NA-57. As well as metal skin replacing the fabric on the fuselage, the fin was changed from having a corrugated skin to being a smooth stressed skin structure and was moved slightly aft, lengthening the rear fuselage while the engine was moved forward to maintain the center of gravity. The rudder was also changed from the rounded shape used previously to one with a roughly triangular shape with the broadest part being at the bottom to improve handling at high angles of attack. In one respect however, it was a step backwards from its immediate predecessor, the BT-14, with which it is often confused, in that the earlier straight wings were used with the result that in RCAF service, when compared to the later and more powerful Harvard II it was flown alongside, it had different handling characteristics and lower performance.

The British Purchasing Commission bought the 119 aircraft that had not yet been delivered to France in 1940, and transferred them to the Royal Canadian Air Force (RCAF) for the British Commonwealth Air Training Plan between August and September 1940, and all were operational by November. The type was named the Yale Mk.I following British naming practice of naming trainers after education institutions and US-supplied aircraft after American locations, in this case, Yale University, and were used initially as intermediate pilot trainers taking pilots from the de Havilland Tiger Moth and Fleet Finch to the much faster and more complex North American Harvard, until this category was dispensed with as being unnecessary. They were then relegated for use as airborne wireless radio trainers, along with the contemporary Fleet Fort intermediate trainer in 1943. Prior to service entry, the throttle and engine mixture controls were modified from the system used by the French whereby the throttle was pulled back to increase power, and the mixture control pulled back to lean out the mixture, to the system used on the Harvard. Wikipedia

Wkikpedia Wikipedia North American Yale

YouTube YouTube North American Yale

General Harold A Skaarup Web Page

CASPIR Aircraft Groups:
RCAF On Strength (119), Canadian Aircraft Losses (21), Canadian Museum(4)
last update: 2021-11-01 19:58:00

Yale 3420

Served with No.31 Service Flying Training School, and with No. 6 SFTS at Dunville, Ontario. Category C damage on 22 January 1943 at Aylmer, Ontario. Category A damage on 11 October 1943. Aircraft marked with this serial displayed at Canadian Aviation Museum, Winnipeg, Manitoba, exact identity not known.

1940-09-17 Taken on Strength 2019-08-20
1941-March-02 Accident: 31 Service Flying Training School Loc: Kingston Ontario Names: White
1941-June-18 Accident: 6 Service Flying Training School Loc: Dunnville Ontario Names: Been
1943-January-22 Accident: 14 Service Flying Training School Loc: Aerodrome Names: Huber
1943-August-07 Accident: 4 Wireless School Loc: Burford Names: Bieber | Wagner
1943-09-02 Struck off Strength 2019-08-20

4 WS (4 Wireless School)

Trainees in the "Wireless Air Gunner" (WAG) stream spent 24 weeks at a Wireless Schoo learning the theory and application of wireless communications. This included signalling with lights and flags as well as radio. Their "WAG" training was completed with four weeks at a Bombing & Gunnery School.

RCAF Roundel RCAF.info - RCAF Station Guelph ON - 4 WS

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