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Poirier, Joseph Alfred Raymond (Flight Lieutenant)

Killed in Flying Accident 1943-October-20

Birth Date: 1921-November-25 (age 21)

Born: Kenora, Kenora District, Ontario, Canada

Son of Joseph Aime Poirier and Ann Marie (nee Ouellette) Poirier, of Kenora, Ontario

Home: Kenora, Ontario

Enlistment Date: 1941-04-07

10 (B) Sqn- Squadron
Gander, Newfoundland
Flight Lieutenant
Air Chief MarshalA/C/M
Air MarshalA/M
Air Vice MarshalA/V/M
Air CommodoreA/C
Group CaptainG/C
Wing CommanderW/C
Squadron LeaderS/L
Flight LieutenantF/L
Flying OfficerF/O
Pilot OfficerP/O
Warrant Officer 1st ClassWO1
Warrant Officer 2nd ClassWO2
Flight SergeantFS
Senior AircraftmanSAC
Leading AircraftmanLAC
Aircraftman 1st ClassAC1
Aircraftman 2nd ClassAC2
Service Numbers

Liberator B-24D / Mk. V 3701

Transport 1943-October-20 to 1943-October-20

10 (BR) Sqn (RCAF) RCAF Station Gander

10 North Atlantic (BR) Squadron, Gander, Newfoundland. Liberator V aircraft 3701 H flying from Gander, Newfoundland to Mont Joli, Quebec was redirected to Dorval, Quebec due to poor weather conditions at Mont Joli. Nothing further was heard from the aircraft before it crashed and burned on the west side of the 2,500 foot foothill of Black Mountain, Quebec. A search at the time of the crash failed to find the crash site. The wreckage of the aircraft and remains of the 24 casualties was not located until 1946-06-20. A Memorial Cairn was erected on the Black Mountain crash site in memory of those who lost their lives there

Flight Crew: Sgt WG MacNaughton MiD (RCAF), F/L JA Poirier (RCAF), F/O SA Sanderson AFM (RCAF), WO2 JA Barabonoff (RCAF), WO1 J Silverstein MiD (RCAF), P/O RW MacDonald MiD (RCAF)

Passengers: F/L RF Fisher MiD (RCAF), WO1 W Howlett (RCAF), WO1 FE Jenkins (RCAF), Cpl HD Beattie (RCAF), Cpl RD Marr (RCAF), Cpl HK Hambly (RCAF), Cpl AC Johnston (RCAF), P/O J Lamont MiD (RCAF), LAC CL Dynes (RCAF), LAC GR Patterson (RCAF), LAC AJ Radcliffe (RCAF), LAC EW Read (RCAF)(USA), Sgt FH Elliott (RCAF)(USA), Sgt EM Finn (RCAF), LAC JAJP Veilleux (RCAF), FS RF Ware (RCAF), Sgt SA Wood (RCAF) and F/O JS Johnston MiD (RCAF) were all killed in this flying accident

All were buried at the crash site where the cairn stands in their honour until 1985, when the crews remains were exhumed and moved to a cemetery St. Donat, Quebec due to vandalism at the crash site. Detail provided by C Lambert

The Liberator in Royal Air Force and Commonwealth Service by James D Oughton page 263

General 19/20.1943. No.10 RCAF Bomber Reconnaissance Squadron B-24...

General Liberator RCAF 3701 [Royal Air Force Aircraft Serial and Image]...

Canada Source Canadian Virtual War Memorial

Commonwealth War Graves Commission Commonwealth War Graves Commission

Canada Primary Source Library and Archives Canada Service Files (may not exist)

Flight Lieutenant Joseph Alfred Raymond Poirier was exhumed and reburied.

Google MapKenora, Ontario
First Burial
Google MapAn isolated grave at crash site on Black Mountain, Quebec
Google MapMontagne Noire
Collective Grave Lot GE 34

Liberator 3701

Consolidated Liberator B-24 / F-7

(DND Photos via James Craik) (Source Harold A Skaarup Web Page)
Consolidated Liberator G.R. Mk. VIII, RCAF (Serial No. 11130) ex-USAAF Consolidated (Vultee) B-24L Liberator USAAF (44-50154)
ex-RAF (Serial No. 5009), ex-Indian Air Force (Serial No. HE773).
Currently preserved in the Canada Aviation and Space Museum Ottawa Ontario.

The Consolidated B-24 Liberator was an American heavy bomber flown by the RCAF during the Second Word War. It was designed with a shoulder-mounted, high aspect ratio Davis wing which gave the Liberator a high cruise speed, long range and the ability to carry a heavy bomb load. Early RAF Liberators were the first aircraft to cross the Atlantic Ocean as a matter of routine. In comparison with its contemporaries the B-24 was relatively difficult to fly and had poor low speed performance; it also had a lower ceiling compared with the Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress. Of the roughly 18,500 B-24s built in the USA during the war, 148 were flown by the RCAF on long range anti-submarine patrols, with the B-24 serving an instrumental role in closing the Mid-Atlantic gap in the Battle of the Atlantic. The RCAF also flew a few B-24s post war as transports.

Roughly half of all (RAF) Liberator crews in the China-Burma-India (CBI) Theatre were Canadian by the end of the war. John Muir of Vancouver flew the longest mission of the war: 24hrs, 10mins from Ceylon to Burma and back. (Kyle Hood) Harold Skaarup web page

YouTube Liberator bomber

Wkikpedia Wikipedia Liberator bomber

General Harold A Skaarup Web Page

CASPIR Aircraft Groups:
RCAF On Strength (148), RCAF 400 Squadron (19), Canadian Aircraft Losses (145), Canadian Ferried (1)
last update: 2021-09-18 19:06:22

Liberator B-24D / Mk. V 3701

3701 Tail RCAF photo via Mike Kaehler

Ex USAAF B-24D-25-CO serial number 41-24236. General note on the first RCAF B-24Ds (3701 to 3704): Received second hand from USAAF, in very poor condition and without all operational equipment. Mostly used only for training and transportation by RCAF. Initially operated in USAAF camouflage. The designation Mk. V was never officially used by RCAF. These aircraft were generally known as "Brazilian Liberators", in the belief that they had come from a USAAF unit based in Brazil (not confirmed by US records).

Operated by No. 10 (BR) Squadron, RCAF Station Gander, Newfoundland. Went missing on flight from Gander to Mt. Joli, Quebec, on 19 / 20 October 1943. Aircraft was diverted to Dorval because of poor weather at Mt. Joli, wreckage not found until June 1946. 24 fatalities, including most of the crew of Liberator 595, on leave after sinking U-341 a few weeks earlier.

1943-09-29 Taken on Strength 2019-08-20
1943-October-20 Accident: 10 Squadron Loc: Names: Barabanoff | Beattie | Dynes | Elliott | Finn | Fisher | Hambly | Howlett | Jenkins | Johnson | Johnston | Lamont | MacDonald | Marr | Mcnaughton | Patterson | Poirier | Radcliffe | Read | Sanderson | Silverstein | Veilleux | Ware | Wood
1944-03-23 Struck off Strength Struck off, after crashing at St. Donat, near Mont Joli, PQ on night of 19 / 20 October 1943. 2019-08-20

10 (B) Sqn ()

Battle honours

The Second World War



Authorized as ‘No.10 (Torpedo Bomber) Squadron’ 1 April 1938.Footnote1

Redesignated 'No.10 (Bomber) Squadron' 28 August 1939.Footnote2

Redesignated 'No.10 (Bomber Reconnaissance) Squadron' 1 September 1939.Footnote3

Disbanded 13 August 1945.Footnote4


No lineal connection with '10 Experimental Squadron', of 1967-70. See 10 Experimental Squadron.

Operational history

The Second World War

The squadron flew on anti-submarine operations on the Atlantic Coast under 'Eastern Air Command'.Footnote5


Footnote 1

GO 48/38. Authorized but not formed (AFGO 19/39)

Footnote 2

AFGO 41/39

Footnote 3

AFGO 57/39\

Footnote 4

Secret Organization Order 279, 4 August 1945, file S.17-10-1 (DOE), Kardex 181.009 (D5432)

Footnote 5

AFGO 25/40; Statement and Organization Charts for the Home and Overseas War and BCATP Organization, 15 April 1942, file S.8202, Kardex 181.002 (D421); Memorandum, Notes for CAS, Appendix A, 12 September 1939, Document Collection 77/543

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