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Jones, Glyn Ivor (Sergeant)

Killed in Flying Accident 1944-11-10

Age: 21

Son of Thomas and Catherine Jones, of Birchgrove, Glamorgan, Wales.

Service
RAFVR
Unit
5 OTU- Operational Training Unit
Base
Abbotsford, British Columbia, Canada
Rank
Sergeant
Marshal
Air Chief MarshalA/C/M
Air MarshalA/M
Air Vice MarshalA/V/M
Air CommodoreA/C
Group CaptainG/C
Wing CommanderW/C
Squadron LeaderS/L
Flight LieutenantF/L
Flying OfficerF/O
Pilot OfficerP/O
Warrant Officer 1st ClassWO1
Warrant Officer 2nd ClassWO2
Flight SergeantFS
SergeantSGT
CorporalCPL
Senior AircraftmanSAC
Leading AircraftmanLAC
Aircraftman 1st ClassAC1
Aircraftman 2nd ClassAC2
Position
Service Numbers
1837039
5 Operational Training Unit Detachment, Abbotsford, B.C. Aircraft reported missing It was reported missing on the night of 10/11 November 1944, and was later found to have crashed into a mountain on Vancouver Island on 11 November. The wreckage was not located until June 1945, north of the east end of Nitinat Lake. The aircraft carried the code "AT" when it crashed. All 10 crew on board were killed. Killed were P/O F.E. Brown, Sgt R. May, Sgt F.D. Hafford, F/O J.U Kingdon, P/O J.F. Cooke, F/O M. Morganstein, Sgt T. MacDonald, Sgt S. Helper, Sgt D.P. Westwater, and Sgt G.I. Jones. BC Times Colonist Other BC Crashes and Losses notes they were buried at the crash site, which wasn't found for a year. (www.pacificwrecks.com). NB: cemetery block information refers to where their names are listed on Ottawa Memorial wall.

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Canada Primary Source Library and Archives Canada Service Files (may not exist)

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Crew on Liberator B. Mk. VI KH108

Consolidated Liberator B-24 / F-7

(DND Photos via James Craik) (Source Harold A Skaarup Web Page)
Consolidated Liberator G.R. Mk. VIII, RCAF (Serial No. 11130) ex-USAAF Consolidated (Vultee) B-24L Liberator USAAF (44-50154)
ex-RAF (Serial No. 5009), ex-Indian Air Force (Serial No. HE773).
Currently preserved in the Canada Aviation and Space Museum Ottawa Ontario.

The Consolidated B-24 Liberator was an American heavy bomber flown by the RCAF during the Second Word War. It was designed with a shoulder-mounted, high aspect ratio Davis wing which gave the Liberator a high cruise speed, long range and the ability to carry a heavy bomb load. Early RAF Liberators were the first aircraft to cross the Atlantic Ocean as a matter of routine. In comparison with its contemporaries the B-24 was relatively difficult to fly and had poor low speed performance; it also had a lower ceiling compared with the Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress. Of the roughly 18,500 B-24s built in the USA during the war, 148 were flown by the RCAF on long range anti-submarine patrols, with the B-24 serving an instrumental role in closing the Mid-Atlantic gap in the Battle of the Atlantic. The RCAF also flew a few B-24s post war as transports.

Roughly half of all (RAF) Liberator crews in the China-Burma-India (CBI) Theatre were Canadian by the end of the war. John Muir of Vancouver flew the longest mission of the war: 24hrs, 10mins from Ceylon to Burma and back. (Kyle Hood) Harold Skaarup web page


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last update: 2021-09-18 19:06:22

Liberator B. Mk. VI KH108

Supplied by RAF for use at No. 5 OTU, Boundary Bay, BC. KH108 was EX USAAF 44-10673, and arrived at 5 OTU on 9 August 1944. It was reported missing on the night of 10/11 November 1944, and was later found to have crashed into a mountain on Vancouver Island on 11 November. It was written off the books on 29 December 1944. The wreckage was not located until June 1945, north of the east end of Nitinat Lake. The aircraft carried the code "AT" when it crashed. All 11 crew on board were killed.
1944-08-09 Taken on Strength 2022-02-07
1944-November-10 Accident: 5 Operational Training Unit Loc: Unknown Names: Brown | Cooke | Hafford | Helper | Jones | Kingdon | MacDonald | May | Morganstein | Westwater
1944-12-29 Struck off Strength 2022-02-07

5 OTU- Operational Training Unit (5 Operational Training Unit)

The Operational Training Unit (OTU) was the last stop for aircrew trainees. They spent 8 to 14 weeks learning to fly operational aircraft (Hawker Hurricane or Fairey Swordfish, e.g.). The instructors had experience in actual operations, and often were posted to OTUs after their operational tour. 5 Operational Training Unit was established at RCAF Station Boundary Bay, British Columbia. The former station is now the Boundary Bay Airport. More information on the RCAF Station at Boundary Bay can be found at
  • RCAF Roundel RCAF.Info

  • A Detachment of 5 Operational Training Unit was established at RCAF Station Abbotsford, British Columbia. The former Station is now the Abbotsford International Airport. More information on the RCAF Station at Abbotsford can be found at
  • RCAF Roundel RCAF.Info

  • 1944-04-01 Primary Location Boundary Bay Canada
    1944-04-01 Detachment Abbotsford Canada

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